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Fahye ([personal profile] fahye) wrote2008-05-19 07:39 pm
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I am still in fandom, dammit

When I close my eyes, I see photographs of prosections of the gluteal region and the lumbar & sacral plexus. It's probably even less pretty than you're imagining it. However, I have promised myself that I'll plunge onwards with anatomy study for a couple of hours, and then return to my room to do fun things like watch Hairspray or ramble fannishly:

Give me a fannish idea/concept from any fandom I know and I'll give you my thoughts on it. If you want to ask about ships/characters plz ask a specific question!

(This can be anything from my thoughts on plot developments, to what I think of fandom's attitude to X, to anything about my ficcish projects or pairing preferences or...yeah, anything. Answers may end up being drabbles, lists, intelligent meta, entirely undignified capslocking sprees, or any combination of the above.)

THIS ISN'T WHAT YOU ASKED FOR

[identity profile] ryokophoenix.livejournal.com 2008-05-19 10:39 am (UTC)(link)
AND I DON'T CARE.

SPECIFIC:

What, exactly, was Sasuke thinking the first time he stuck his hand down Naruto's pants?*


*Feel free to make that as non-sexual as you like. I JUST NEED CHEERING UP, I'm on my four thousandth essay to mark and it's crap. And they're late. D:
ext_21673: ([nar] signed with their honour)

Re: THIS ISN'T WHAT YOU ASKED FOR

[identity profile] fahye.livejournal.com 2008-05-19 12:25 pm (UTC)(link)
The thinking process, such as it was, went something like this: since Naruto constantly failed to pick up on Sasuke's preferred level of cues -- which were along the lines of brief glances, carefully pitched insults and the occasional punch that didn't even knock him over, come on, how was that not obvious -- Sasuke decided to bypass all intermediate steps as boring and/or a waste of time, and just go for something that not even the most idiotically obtuse of morons could misconstrue.

(Of course, Naruto still spent almost ten seconds reacting as though the Uchiha was trying some new exciting form of rival-torment, so Sasuke disabled one of his legs with a kick to a chakra point, held him upright with the hand not currently occupied, and kissed him.

Naruto caught on pretty quickly after that.)

Re: THIS ISN'T WHAT YOU ASKED FOR

[identity profile] ryokophoenix.livejournal.com 2008-05-19 12:53 pm (UTC)(link)
YOU MAKE ME SMILE SO HARD.

some new exciting form of rival-torment = LOL'd.

That was roughly equivalent to grinding down pure joy, mixing it with rainbows and injecting it directly into my veins. I needed that so badly right now. :3 *huggles*

Also I am slightly incoherent.
ext_21673: ([nar] look the world right in the eye)

Re: THIS ISN'T WHAT YOU ASKED FOR

[identity profile] fahye.livejournal.com 2008-05-19 01:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I WILL DO THE OTHER ONES TOMORROW. Bed now.

<3333 Please don't die of essays. That would make me sad.

Re: THIS ISN'T WHAT YOU ASKED FOR

[identity profile] ryokophoenix.livejournal.com 2008-05-19 01:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I WILL TRY TO AVOID ESSAY-RELATED DEATH.

That way, sometime soon I might actually have enough of a life to talk to you properly. ;_;

[identity profile] ryokophoenix.livejournal.com 2008-05-19 10:48 am (UTC)(link)
Also: how did the symbol of village allegiance come to be a forehead protector?
ext_21673: ([nar] thinly veiled angstmachine)

[identity profile] fahye.livejournal.com 2008-05-20 07:09 am (UTC)(link)
The very earliest form of the chuunin exams, when the whole shinobi system was still very rough, involved an exercise where the point was to nick the forehead of any other candidate, just enough to draw blood. It was a test of both strategy and finesse.

One year, some smartass wore a forehead protector during his exam. He was given no credit for not being nicked, but was still made chuunin based on his performance in the overall exam, and the next year the entire cohort turned up wearing them. They were first adopted as the mark of graduation from the Academy -- after a couple of bad accidents, that particular exercise was removed from the exam -- and then as the place for the village symbol to be engraved, a few years after that.

Iruka told them this story on the first day of training. Naruto was trying to get Shikamaru's attention and missed it entirely; Sasuke heard, and remembered.

[identity profile] ryokophoenix.livejournal.com 2008-05-19 10:58 am (UTC)(link)
DOES MADARA TELL LIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES?

In fact, Madara: discuss.

I hope you've figured out by now that my sole goal in life is currently the achievement of a billion simultaneously dancing Narutos.

And effective procrastination.
ext_21673: ([nar] illusion & dream)

[identity profile] fahye.livejournal.com 2008-05-22 09:27 am (UTC)(link)
WEELLLLLLL in light of the detail thrown into the most recent chapter, I'm pretty much resigned to the fact that Madara is telling the truth. Even though I'm kind of filtering the backstory selectively and building up a mental picture of Itachi that suits my own conception of the storyline -- don't be surprised if I end up writing fic about this -- and I think that Madara could plausibly be wrong about Itachi's motivation for joining Akatsuki (because seriously, he goes against his fucked-up indoctrination and puts his brother ahead of an entire village, and then goes and spies on a criminal society for the village?) but overall I'm not having to tweak my mental picture of Itachi too much, which is the only reason I'm still reading.

Madara's a cypher at this point because we have no idea what he WANTS. Revenge on Konoha as a whole? How is he working towards that? Revenge on the Uchiha? Is he trying to make Sasuke suicidal? (He might even be succeeding at that last one o_O) What kind of person invents a persona like Tobi for shits and giggles?

[identity profile] spikeyboots.livejournal.com 2008-05-19 11:51 am (UTC)(link)
I'd be pretty interested to hear your thoughts on Kara Thrace, maybe how she is received by fandom, how you see her, why she rocks, why she doesn't ... :)

... the prosections of the gluteal region and the lumbar & sacral plexus? *shudders* I don't want to even try to imagine it!

[identity profile] shati.livejournal.com 2008-05-19 01:26 pm (UTC)(link)
How awesome are "five [nouns] ..." ficlets?
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[identity profile] fahye.livejournal.com 2008-05-19 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
THEY ARE PRETTY AWESOME.

Oh, you wanted profundity? I like writing them because they're undemanding and a really, really good way to make myself start writing when I'm rusty, because the individual 'things' can be very short. I usually end up aiming for contrast between them, too, which is fun as an exercise in linked drabbles with changing tones.

[identity profile] ranty-rie.livejournal.com 2008-05-19 02:53 pm (UTC)(link)
When I close my eyes, I see photographs of prosections of the gluteal region and the lumbar & sacral plexus.

I remember studying for my theory EMT test. I nursed the same problem. Maybe it's something on the angle of the sacral plexus shots that make them stay in your brain and make writing fic and particularly smut hard because you somehow find yourself typing lumbar and sacral in the middle of an otherwise perfectly cute/fluffy/angsty/hot-and-bothered scene? I hate it when my smut/fanfic goes clinical on me. More so when I write it. XD

Yey for random run-over sentences/questions!

So... fandom.

So what are your thoughts on yaoi? What about your thoughts on the Rookie 9? Like them? Hate them? Am I the only one that feels Team 8 (Hinata, Kiba, Shino) need more screentime and love from the fandom? What squicks you in fanfic?
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[identity profile] fahye.livejournal.com 2008-05-19 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
*looks at own fic* Yeah, mine goes clinical on me all the time, which might be why I write so many medical characters :D

It took me a long, long time to get the Rookie 9 straight in my head because [livejournal.com profile] ryokophoenix skipped me through the early stages of the anime and I only started watching properly during the fight stages of the chuunin exams. I really like that the cast is so big (especially when you throw the Sand trio in as well) and that Team 7 isn't focused on as being Ultra Super Special to the exclusion of all others, because it makes SENSE that they still have ties to the people they trained and learned with. I find Neji to be the most interesting, I have a huge crush on Shikamaru, and I have an itch to write a long, careful fic about Ino because I think she doesn't have much of a personality in canon at all and post-timejump she pretty much got stuck with being Sakura Lite. Kishimoto just...isn't so great with his female characters unless they're over-the-top kickass like Sakura and Tsunade.

I don't have a lot of interest in Team 8 but I think a lot of the reason WHY I don't have a lot of interest in them is because they're so underdeveloped, so more screentime is a great idea. I severely dislike the female archetype that Hinata represents -- the shy, stammering girl who seems to exist to quietly long for the main character (dammit, Kishimoto! LEARN TO WRITE GIRLS). I HAVE like a few things that we've been shown around Team 8: I liked the glimpse we got into Kiba's family, and I love any kind of interaction between Neji and Hinata because I find the Hyuuga family politics fascinating. MORE HYUUGAS. AND MORE CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT FOR KIBA AND SHINO. That is my wish.

(I'll cover the squicks question in another comment)

[identity profile] ranty-rie.livejournal.com 2008-05-20 03:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Point, your fic goes clinical, but damnit, it retains poetic. **envies/hates/>:E**

Personally, I like Kishimoto's work on Hinata and Sakura, if only because it's different from your usual girl in anime, and it sorta shows the strain of being a woman in what's mainly a man's job. (At least, if the ratio of shinobi vs kunoichi we've seen so far holds universal.) In a sense, they're immature and either too shy or too loud, and end up being entirely obnoxious. ...well, at age twelve, most boys think girls are obnoxious and either too shy or too loud. And despite the fact the cast of characters is wide, I've always thought Naruto IS told from Naruto's POV. But that's just me. ^^;;

As for the Hyuugas. God, please. I salivate senselessly waiting to see how the hell are the Clan Politics come to bite people in the ass later on. Because it's so good. One of those moments when you go "wow, maybe Kishimoti DID know what he was doing and thought ahead beyond the Chuunin exams". XD
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[identity profile] fahye.livejournal.com 2008-05-20 10:37 am (UTC)(link)
Hmm. Okay. I don't like incest that involves a large power difference -- intergenerational is right out, and sibling incest where the power imbalance is obvious (usually through age, but I guess it could be through other means) really squicks me. Because it will always, always seem like advantage is being taken. Always. I can put up with sibling incest if the power in the relationship is either equal or very close to equal (or if it shifts around) and if it's very obviously a choice made by a mature mind. Otherwise...no. This is why I will never like Itachi/Sasuke, and why even Neji/Hinata would only work for me if it grew beyond 'Neji is working through his resentment of the main branch' and became about Hinata's choices.

I guess that can generalise to severe power imbalances in general. They make me deeply uncomfortable unless they're a deliberately important, carefully handled aspect of the fic. I never understood the Harry Potter fandom's ability to pair up people of Harry's generation with people of his father's. Especially the teachers. It just weirds me out.

Less on the 'squick' side, more on the 'INFURIATING' side: I hate gratuitous romance. I hate (but can SOMETIMES enjoy, albeit very guiltily) gratuitous character abuse that does not stem in some way from their situation or personality, but simply was constructed to allow for the ensuing gratuitous romance (rape especially. god, I detest rape fics. they are ONLY okay if the aftermath is handled sublimely -- which is never is -- and if it is used to illuminate something about the character). I hate out-of-character dialogue that exists because the author is too lazy to actually work their way through something with the characters fixed in their mind, and instead just want to rush through to whatever ending they want to see played out. I hate overglamorisation of appearance and manner and feeling. I hate absolutes. I really, really hate people who knowingly post subpar work and apologise cutely for the fact that 'oh, I couldn't be bothered to find a beta' or 'this is a bit OOC in parts I guess ^_^' or 'yeah, this is AU in which I changed X and Y and Z and oh look, no problems, just irrational fluffy wuv!'. FUCK. IF YOU KNOW IT'S BAD, DON'T POST IT. YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO COOKIES JUST FOR SHOWING UP.

*takes deep breaths*

I can, um, go on like this for quite some time.

[identity profile] whatimages.livejournal.com 2008-05-19 03:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I would like your thoughts on The Ladies. What works for you in a female character, what doesn't, what drives you bonkers.

[identity profile] ristrettoette.livejournal.com 2008-05-19 03:24 pm (UTC)(link)
OMG I want you to write so many Wire in the Blood drabbles, I am having a hard time choosing. How about: in series one, Tony says that every relationship has a submissive participant and a dominant participant. Carol asks who, in their relationship, plays each role? Tony's answer is dodgy. Illustrate for me (possibly in a five ways/times set) your view.

Take as long as you like!
skygiants: Princess Tutu, facing darkness with a green light in the distance (companions say eh?)

[personal profile] skygiants 2008-05-19 03:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Between DW, Torchwood, and one other fandom of your choice, ideal cross-canon Companion set?
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[identity profile] fahye.livejournal.com 2008-05-20 03:59 am (UTC)(link)
This is a completely impossible question. Especially because I think that >2 Companions would be bad for social dynamics.

Uuuuuuum.

In the name of cheering up Ten: Jack Harkness and Ty Lee. Bendy sex and cheery smiles for everyone!
skygiants: Princess Tutu, facing darkness with a green light in the distance (field of victory)

[personal profile] skygiants 2008-05-20 04:00 am (UTC)(link)
Really? I have always thought that three Companions would be about ideal. Ensembliness! Different dynamics!

However this choice I approve of. :D
ext_21673: ([dw] scatter them across time and space)

[identity profile] fahye.livejournal.com 2008-05-20 04:02 am (UTC)(link)
Hmm. Well, I could see Ten-Jack-Martha-Ty Lee.

And of course I still long for the glory days of Nine-Jack-Rose. WOE.
skygiants: Princess Tutu, facing darkness with a green light in the distance (nine ayup)

[personal profile] skygiants 2008-05-20 04:04 am (UTC)(link)
ME TOO. I mean, I miss Nine period, but I also miss more than one Companion at a time! YOU CAN DO IT, TEN!

Also with Martha and Ty Lee both around, it would be the fatal combination of common sense and cheery bubbliness to prevent Jack ever spiraling around into Torchwood-style angst!
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[identity profile] fahye.livejournal.com 2008-05-20 04:14 am (UTC)(link)
Perfect!

[identity profile] a-white-rain.livejournal.com 2008-05-19 04:38 pm (UTC)(link)
what do you like best about Seishioru's feelings for Subaru?
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[identity profile] fahye.livejournal.com 2008-05-22 09:18 am (UTC)(link)
OH MAN.

I have always been a sucker for any relationship in which the feelings are present but never, ever voiced. I am also a sucker for emotional repression (of course), and there's a fascinating edge of conscious vs. unconscious denial in Seishirou that I really love. Because it's entirely plausible that he honestly believes that Subaru lost the Bet, but it's just as plausible that he knows that Subaru won but refused to admit it to either of them.

(I love that he admitted it only when it would hurt the most. Because it's brilliantly in character.)

[identity profile] a-white-rain.livejournal.com 2008-05-22 01:01 pm (UTC)(link)
(I love that he admitted it only when it would hurt the most. Because it's brilliantly in character.)
Yes!

And I like that he got morally WORSE as he grew to love Subaru. I love me some redemption through love, but sometimes it's nice to see it in another light.
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[identity profile] ariastar.livejournal.com 2008-05-19 04:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Since we have less than 24 hours to reveal deadline, give me your thoughts on who Gormagon is! unless you do not care. Sometimes I do not care and just hope it's not one of the squints.

Also: a list of Why Tony Stark Is Awesome.
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[identity profile] fahye.livejournal.com 2008-05-19 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
(Just quickly before I run away to lecture: um, I am hugely hugely behind on Bones! So I don't really want to speculate! I will be sad if it is either Sweets or Zack -- apparently the lead suspects in fandom's eyes? maybe? -- because it will mean no more of these characters in subsequent seasons. That is the extent of my thoughts.)
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[identity profile] fahye.livejournal.com 2008-05-20 11:26 am (UTC)(link)
1) Because he wants to save the wooooorld!
2) Because he thinks if he just works hard enough and invents enough shiny things that go vroom and fly, he actually can.
3) Because he invented an AI housekeeper that snarked at him in a British accent.
4) Because he's really, really cute and I'm really, really shallow.
5) Because he has inappropriate chemistry with his best friend, his personal assistant, his ROBOTS, and pretty much anything that stands still long enough for him to exist near it.
6) Because he's Iron Man.
7) Because in an ill-conceived moment of OH WHAT THE HELL and playboy impulsivity, he decided to tell the whole world this.
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[identity profile] ariastar.livejournal.com 2008-05-20 03:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Re: 7: god, that was my favourite part. I may have shrieked. Because -- well, it's Tony, it wasn't that unexpected, but after years of Superheroes In Hiding it was really damn unexpected.