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[fahye]

Just so you know, the only thing I do that gives me any chance of listening to what's cool - or rather, what was cool - is buying the Triple J Hottest 100 album every year. (Well. My mother buys it, and I steal it. My mother is much cooler than I am.)

Augie March played at the ANU Bar on Wednesday, actually - I saw them setting up when I was on my way to a choir meeting. And I must say: I like 'One Crowded Hour', but I am slightly baffled that it was the #1. It's not...all that special...surely? Aussies? Weigh in.

('Black Fingernails, Red Wine', on the other hand, is flat-out awesome.)

I AM SO BORED, FLIST. SO BORED. Someone say hello.

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[schiarire.livejournal.com]

I don't think that is his defining characteristic, no . . . if he sought out opportunities like that, then he would be -- the reverse of a personal God. You know? And in a sense, that would be almost as good as being, I don't know, Abraham (which arguably was not as much fun as a night at the movies!). Obsession, individualism, cruelty: these are human traits. God is inhuman and, at least in Raguel's canon (I am unsure about Lucifer's) inhumanly indifferent. For good or for bad, humans care. I think that samael_diablo at least stands somewhere between these two poles. He isn't going to devote himself to, e.g., stalking one person for the duration of their life and totally corrupting them -- not even Jesus, apparently -- and seeking their destruction. But neither has he, like God, removed himself from Man entirely and gone off to twiddle his vast thumbs. Indifferent evil, I suppose, would be things like natural disasters; personal evil more on the lines of murder.

Of course, Carey's Lucifer says that he never made anyone do anything. & this is true, but it is a bendy truth, and I am sure it has other sides. It does not quite seem true of Fahye's Lucifer (remember Hob?) but you could argue that it was, I think, if you wanted. Based on the assumption that the inclination was already in people.

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To be honest, I don't know why Lucifer and Thom still get along; except that they seem to have no illusions about each other. I think that Thom as he is now is about as far from the type of person that usually interests Lucifer as it is possible to get, but that earlier in his life, it might have been otherwise. Thom has lost all his innocence. Of all kinds: emotional, mental, situational, sexual, innocence of action, what have you. Actually I think the problem may be that he may have become a little too like Lucifer -- sort of, proud and hard and 99% ennui. (There are other problems with Thom now, of course.)

*weeps* Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahye lend meta!

[fahye.livejournal.com]

WTF, I leave for lunch and you two get into indepth meta discussion of my character! I am not complaining, but, uh, wow.

As I see it, the main difference between my Lucifer and Carey's is that, as Holly said, Carey's is so devoted to his own plans. Anything else is incidental. His anger against God has progressed and dwindled to something almost like contempt. Whereas mine, though he may not show it often, is still - in some areas - an idealist. He still believes in the Cause. He still rails against the injustice of the Name if you give him enough fuel.

As for cruelty, um. I agree that a lot of it is amusement, but a better world is curiosity. And a certain amount of pleasure in manipulation. He is occasionally far more human than he would like, and the irony isn't lost on him. He is capable of fondness for certain beings (*icons unsubtly*), even though he is always careful to restrict exactly how close any one person gets.

Hob was, more than anything he has ever encountered, unexpected.

AS EVER, I have to quote Art. Because I have never and will never get it down as well as she did:

I think you are a consummate professional in the art of beauty. You dislike that which is not beautiful. You disdain it. You're like the sparest of poetry, pared down, each single word laid perfect in its place. And you like pain, because people are beautiful when they suffer: stripped to what is basic and essential, to the violence of the id, to desire and death and nothing more.

But you are capable of love, and capable of gentleness. You are flawed. They say that it was pride and envy that sent you falling; but I think that it was something more damning -- something else... It's not angelic, that flaw. Angels are cold, and distant, and perfect, and pure. No angel would have made so mortal a gesture as to burn all the forests in my dream.

This post (http://samael-diablo.livejournal.com/2045.html), as well as the Tragic Love Backstory (http://mercurial-wit.livejournal.com/23585.html), is pretty much all the meta I find myself needing, most of the time.

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Thom is entirely comprised of Issues, Ji. You could unravel him into the smallest threads and there would not be a single one that doesn't need intensive therapy.

[schiarire.livejournal.com]

I didn't mean his relationship/affair with Hob, I meant when I got online and you and Art were stumbling off to bed and Lucifer had just compelled Hob to kiss him and wreck Hob/Billy! *malicious glee*

I'M SURE THERE IS SOMETHING ABOUT THOM THAT IS NOT AN ISSUE.

Some... thing...