hmm
Just so you know, the only thing I do that gives me any chance of listening to what's cool - or rather, what was cool - is buying the Triple J Hottest 100 album every year. (Well. My mother buys it, and I steal it. My mother is much cooler than I am.)
Augie March played at the ANU Bar on Wednesday, actually - I saw them setting up when I was on my way to a choir meeting. And I must say: I like 'One Crowded Hour', but I am slightly baffled that it was the #1. It's not...all that special...surely? Aussies? Weigh in.
('Black Fingernails, Red Wine', on the other hand, is flat-out awesome.)
I AM SO BORED, FLIST. SO BORED. Someone say hello.
Augie March played at the ANU Bar on Wednesday, actually - I saw them setting up when I was on my way to a choir meeting. And I must say: I like 'One Crowded Hour', but I am slightly baffled that it was the #1. It's not...all that special...surely? Aussies? Weigh in.
('Black Fingernails, Red Wine', on the other hand, is flat-out awesome.)
I AM SO BORED, FLIST. SO BORED. Someone say hello.

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YOU SHOULD WRITE ME MORE FRASER-AND-HIS-RAYS FIC. OT3s bridge all divides.
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OT3s bridge all divides
Amen to that! PERHAPS I SHALL. Though I am currently percolating a post-CotW Fraser/Vecchio, Kowalski/Maggie fic, and that is going to be fun, I think.
*pokes your paper for you*
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Has anybody ever written long, satisfying Ray/Stella? Do you know? Because basically when it comes to RayK I just turn pushy and protective and want him to have everything he wants. Provided he learns to look after it.
Maybe someone should buy him a puppy? Puppy first, Ray, then you can have your wife back.
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I have not found any lengthy Ray/Stella, but I have not looked that hard yet, either. I've just started reading Kowalski fic fairly recently because I wanted to get through his part of the canon first, so I didn't get fanon in my canon. ;) If I find anything, though, I will let you know! There was a great (though short) Ray/Stella fic that
And OMG. A puppy? He should start with a PLANT. HEE. (Have you seen "Hunting Season," though? Because he and Maggie are pretty awesome.)
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HAHAHA. In my case it's more: oh look, there are a few specks of canon floating around in my fanon. And yeah, probably a plant might be best.
Fraser: *buys Ray a cactus*
Ray: *manages to kill it*
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To think I had almost forgotten the existence of Manuel!
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I have to say, that last offer of... truce, or whatever it was surprised the hell out of me. He must not know him well at all if he thought Lucifer would actually want that. ??
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AND ELAINE.
AND MAZIKEEN.
AND JILL & WOSSFACE THE NORSE GUY! (Belphangar? Summat like that?)
One of the best things about something to epic drawing to a close is that you get the satisfying endings for all of these characters that you've been attached to for...well, four years or so, for me.
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Elaine! Wah. I loved Elaine, though I thought she put up with too much BS from various quarters. But I guess she had to. Also she was what, twelve?
And Jill! And their girls' night out! And Gaudium and Spera! *flails* Yes, all those endings were excellent. And there were a few more decent (as in 'good') characters in the last couple volumes so that Lucifer stopped looking like the nice guy by contrast, which was sort of a relief.
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You're right: in the later volumes it was more Lucifer(+allies) against the Forces Of Injustice, and although he never got quite out of characters, I was vastly more comfortable with the narrative when we had something more morally pale to set him against, so that his particular shade of grey DID show up as darkly as it needed to.
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I was more comfortable with that part of it, too. It didn't help that aside from Michael, all the angels - the expected foil - were either morons or assholes. (And I found Gabriel intensely creepy, mainly because I felt like we saw him most in the section drawn by Craig Russell. SO WRONG.)
Lucifer - well. I couldn't help making comparisons, and it was a strange contrast. This Lucifer was brilliant, cutting, stubborn omg, intensely proud - of course. But it's like he was missing some tiny thing that (as I'm well-trained, haha) I expected. I want to say a sense of cruelty, but that's not really right. I don't think of
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I haven't read all of the comics, but it was my comparison that I can conceive of someone falling in love with Fahye's Lucifer; Carey's less so.
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I agree with you on the love thing - it would be incredibly hard to care about someone who so adamantly doesn't care about anything except achieving his own goals. And occasionally railing against what he sees as the injustices stacked against him.
On the other hand,
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Probably his Tragic Love Backstory helps.
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Do you see cruelty as his defining characteristic, then? I always thought that somehow he had better things to do than look for ways to be mean. Maybe not. Or maybe it's just that he doesn't have to look very hard.
You do like that word! It's a good one. And I liked that story a lot - so restrained, both form and characters. Do you think Thom's penchant for cruelty is a large part of why they get along so well?
Aaaand I go to bed now. I hope the overnight upload doesn't mean you have to stay up and babysit it all night. :/
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Of course, Carey's Lucifer says that he never made anyone do anything. & this is true, but it is a bendy truth, and I am sure it has other sides. It does not quite seem true of Fahye's Lucifer (remember Hob?) but you could argue that it was, I think, if you wanted. Based on the assumption that the inclination was already in people.
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To be honest, I don't know why Lucifer and Thom still get along; except that they seem to have no illusions about each other. I think that Thom as he is now is about as far from the type of person that usually interests Lucifer as it is possible to get, but that earlier in his life, it might have been otherwise. Thom has lost all his innocence. Of all kinds: emotional, mental, situational, sexual, innocence of action, what have you. Actually I think the problem may be that he may have become a little too like Lucifer -- sort of, proud and hard and 99% ennui. (There are other problems with Thom now, of course.)
*weeps* Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahye lend meta!
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As I see it, the main difference between my Lucifer and Carey's is that, as Holly said, Carey's is so devoted to his own plans. Anything else is incidental. His anger against God has progressed and dwindled to something almost like contempt. Whereas mine, though he may not show it often, is still - in some areas - an idealist. He still believes in the Cause. He still rails against the injustice of the Name if you give him enough fuel.
As for cruelty, um. I agree that a lot of it is amusement, but a better world is curiosity. And a certain amount of pleasure in manipulation. He is occasionally far more human than he would like, and the irony isn't lost on him. He is capable of fondness for certain beings (*icons unsubtly*), even though he is always careful to restrict exactly how close any one person gets.
Hob was, more than anything he has ever encountered, unexpected.
AS EVER, I have to quote Art. Because I have never and will never get it down as well as she did:
I think you are a consummate professional in the art of beauty. You dislike that which is not beautiful. You disdain it. You're like the sparest of poetry, pared down, each single word laid perfect in its place. And you like pain, because people are beautiful when they suffer: stripped to what is basic and essential, to the violence of the id, to desire and death and nothing more.
But you are capable of love, and capable of gentleness. You are flawed. They say that it was pride and envy that sent you falling; but I think that it was something more damning -- something else... It's not angelic, that flaw. Angels are cold, and distant, and perfect, and pure. No angel would have made so mortal a gesture as to burn all the forests in my dream.
This post (http://samael-diablo.livejournal.com/2045.html), as well as the Tragic Love Backstory (http://mercurial-wit.livejournal.com/23585.html), is pretty much all the meta I find myself needing, most of the time.
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Thom is entirely comprised of Issues, Ji. You could unravel him into the smallest threads and there would not be a single one that doesn't need intensive therapy.
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I'M SURE THERE IS SOMETHING ABOUT THOM THAT IS NOT AN ISSUE.
Some... thing...
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>>And in a sense, that would be almost as good<<
I meant that it would be almost as good for the humans affected by a personal devil.
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I guess if you can't at all relate to it, then it maybe doesn't mean much, but the fairly universal theme looked at in such a horribly honest manner just guts me to death every time.
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