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Fahye ([personal profile] fahye) wrote2009-05-12 10:20 pm
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announcement!

I'm high on singing-vibes from an excellent combined choir & orchestra Carmina rehearsal, and I had a couple of emergency naps earlier today, so I'm surprisingly chirpy for 10:20pm. I have a hell of a lot of work to do but this post needs to be made sooner or later, so.

The short version is: I'm going rural for 2011.



The long version is this: one of the ways the Australian Government tries to entice its newly-minted doctors to work in areas of need (mostly rural areas) is by throwing money at medical schools to allow them to provide a good amount of training in rural medicine. The University of Sydney has rural campuses in Dubbo and Orange (both small towns in NSW), meaning that there is on-site accommodation for students and a clinical school attached to each hospital. In return for the funding for these sits, the graduate medical program has to send a certain proportion of its Commonwealth-supported students (ie. not full-fee-paying -- a dying breed anyway thanks to KRudd -- or international students) to spend a year of their degree in a rural training school.

The first few years the rural stream was run, it was unpopular, but the faculty has started offering the Discovery Bus Tours (weekends where students can visit the towns & campuses, and talk to current students, and find out more about the stream) and now the rural option is so oversubscribed that a ballot system has to be used to choose who goes. Students are either there for third or fourth year, as these are the two entirely hospital-based teaching years.

I went on the Disco Bus earlier this year, largely because I was...curious. I'm such a devotedly big-city girl, currently training at an enormous big-city hospital, and I've never lived in the country. I'm still not thrilled at the prospect. But by all accounts the teaching is excellent -- much smaller class sizes and far fewer senior staff around, so you get a lot more hands-on experience than you do at the urban clinical schools. There's less choice when it comes to medical rotations, but you do still get a year at your urban hospital, so variety shouldn't be a problem. The accommodation is free (!!!), you share a house with other students in your year, and it's basically next door to the clinical school. Based largely on the hospital and my desire to break up my Sydney years, I decided to preferentially think about Dubbo 2010.

However, the ballot system is CRAZILY COMPLEX, due to the necessity of allocating a certain number of people from each urban clinical school to each rural centre for each year, and it was run as a simple 'once your name is pulled out of the hat (literally. a hat.) you choose your spot'. We sat in a room while this happened and people had to revise their options frantically based on which spots got snapped up where and by what people.

LONG STORY SHORT: when my name was pulled out, a Dubbo 2010 spot was still available, but due to a handful of reasons...I picked Orange 2011 instead. I was unsure about it for a while but it's working out quite nicely -- two of my best friends in the course, K and N, also got spots in Orange that year. And Orange is a much nicer town than Dubbo; it's got lovely bakeries and is near a heap of wineries and orchards (gourmet food festivals ahoy!), and is just prettier. Also, according to Wikipedia, Orange is one of the few cities in Australia to receive reasonably frequent snowfalls in winter, which is completely awesome because I have never lived somewhere snowy!

ALSO, and this is exciting, Orange has the Bloomfield Hospital, which is a huge centre for rural and remote mental health, and the rural coordinator has said that she can try to get me a timetable whereby I can do my psych term in Orange (AND get it done before my elective term, which will hopefully also be in psych).

The upshot being that my 2010/2011 will probably look something like this:

2010

Sydney

Jan 18 - TERM A: Medicine (probably 2 x 4-week placements in eg. neurology, cardio, renal, etc.)
Mar 22 - TERM B: Surgery (again, 2 x 4-week placements)
May 24 - TERM C: Community medicine (a GP placement)
Jul 26 - TERM D: Perinatal & women's health (BABIES!!)

Sep 27 - BARRIER EXAM

followed by a move to...

Orange

Oct 12 - TERM E: Psychological & addiction medicine (\o/)

2011

December 7-March 22 - HOLIDAY & ELECTIVE TERM

(Basically you can choose to do one 8-week elective or 2 x 4-week electives, in any kind of medicine, anywhere you like. I am not sure what I'll do, yet -- I'd love to go overseas but a lot of the hospitals in America and England charge shitloads of money for elective terms. I'm looking at other options including some GP work in indigenous communities and some excellent mental health projects being run in Australian cities, but I have a while to work it out.)

Mar 22 - TERM F: Child & adolescent health
May 24 - TERM G: Critical care (emergency, anaesthetics & intensive care)
Jul 26 - TERM H: Medicine (as for the first medicine term in Sydney, though probably a lot more general)

And then I think there's probably another BARRIER EXAM (ew) and a short holiday before which I somehow have to have found accommodation back in...

Sydney

October 11-December 6 - PRE-INTERNSHIP

2012

I START WORK AS A FUCKING DOCTOR. I'll know where by July of 2011, at least.

~

So yeah. That's it. I think (and my parents agree) it'll be really good for me to get out of my city-loving comfort zone -- Orange has a population of around 30,000 -- I grew up in Canberra (pop. 300,000) and currently live in Sydney (pop. 4.5 million). The medicine will be different, the people will be different, the life will be different.

I'm excited :)

[identity profile] darthrami.livejournal.com 2009-05-12 01:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I think that sounds really exciting.

[identity profile] not-in-denial.livejournal.com 2009-05-12 01:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I love your posts about medical school and your future doctoring because it makes me believe there will be at least one more doctor out there who is not shit.
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[identity profile] fahye.livejournal.com 2009-05-12 01:47 pm (UTC)(link)
That's a really good thing to hear.

[identity profile] not-in-denial.livejournal.com 2009-05-12 01:49 pm (UTC)(link)
It's a really good thing to believe. It's gotten to the point where at the tiny age of 23 I'm already so jaded with the medical industry that when a doctor is polite, competent and professional I want to fucking kiss them for being so amazingly wonderful. :/

[identity profile] spikeyboots.livejournal.com 2009-05-12 02:16 pm (UTC)(link)
OMG I am so excited for you! \o/ I am actually kinda jealous too - because even though (as you know) I love my big cities, I reckon living out in the country, somewhere like Orange, will be amazing. I want to come and visit and write poetry and heat and snow in the winter and your medical tools and orchards.
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[identity profile] fahye.livejournal.com 2009-05-12 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
COME VISIT, YESSSSS. I will ply you with cherries and wine and make you write fic for me while I bake things.
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[identity profile] wickedtrue.livejournal.com 2009-05-12 02:59 pm (UTC)(link)
That sounds like a LOVELY transition from big city to small. :D It will have stuff for you to do and plenty of culture to balance the sudden city loss. I'm sure you'll enjoy yourself.

I'm so terribly excited for you!! :D
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[identity profile] ariastar.livejournal.com 2009-05-12 03:04 pm (UTC)(link)
That sounds awesome. Of course, I'm coming at this from the other side -- my college town is the largest place I've lived in at about 30,000, so I think you will have all that you need! but this might not actually be the case. I'm sure there's still plenty to do in a place that size if you want to go have fun, though; and yay for new experiences. :D

[identity profile] dr-biscuit.livejournal.com 2009-05-12 03:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Sounds very exciting - everyone I know who went rural found it a great experience (particularly the higher number of patients with a common language, greater involvement in the team.)

Do you get much choice over intern placement in NSW? Vic was pretty much supply/demand, but I worked with a few USyd grads who said they didn't get as much choice north of the border.
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[identity profile] fahye.livejournal.com 2009-05-12 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
At present I think intern places in NSW are a preferences/ballot thing, but by the time I graduate they will be ranking people according to...something (we have graded exams over the next two years, in order to be ranked into tiers) and then giving people at the top their preferences. Which is an unfair thing for the unpopular hospitals, but I suppose it provides SOME kind of incentive to study :D

[identity profile] dr-biscuit.livejournal.com 2009-05-12 10:00 pm (UTC)(link)
abso-smurfly. I remember being aghast at the suggestion that those with the highest marks should be sent to the least popular hospitals, as those who did worse in exams needed the closer supervision of big city hospitals. (And actually in Victoria it wasn't just the city hospitals that were popular: Geelong was one of the top choices). And it does provide an incentive to the hospitals to provide better training environments. (The was something I hadn't thought much about until choosing, but there's a big difference between hospitals in the way they treat/exploit their trainees).

All of which is ages away! Anyway, I'm sure the Orange experience will be awesome (getting to do critical care will be great too. We got A+E but never into ICU).

[identity profile] tammaiya.livejournal.com 2009-05-12 03:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow, that's super exciting. \o/ I think you'll probably really enjoy yourself, actually. You'll have friends there, it's not that far from Orange to Canberra or Sydney, and it sounds like it'll be a really different and interesting experience.
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[identity profile] schiarire.livejournal.com 2009-05-12 03:47 pm (UTC)(link)
omgggg

I'm so excited, if I were a nail-biter, I would be biting my nails with excitement!
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[identity profile] fahye.livejournal.com 2009-05-12 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I am definitely going to get a good digital camera before then and do a photo-and-words blog of the year.

[identity profile] lilith-lessfair.livejournal.com 2009-05-12 04:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Very cool, Fahye. That's very exciting news, and it sounds like it will be an excellent experience for you (Wow, did that ever sound a bit cheesy, but it's sincere.). Your elective term also sounds fascinating in terms of the options you've got.

It's interesting to me, because most of my childhood was spent in very small towns in the US and, since I've tended to live in larger cities (and can't imagine going back to a small town, but that's probably because it's where I came from). I do think the small town experience is something that can't really be replicated and is certainly interesting for those who've lived most of their lives in cities -- it's very intimate.

[identity profile] pirateygoodness.livejournal.com 2009-05-12 05:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I am still boggling that you are almost a full year ahead of me, yet we both finish in 2012, technically. WHUT.

Congrats on getting the rural placement you wanted - it sounds like you have a killer clerkship schedule, which is awesome. I'm glad you're excited. :)
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[identity profile] fahye.livejournal.com 2009-05-12 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Technically I finish my DEGREE in October 2011 and start work in 2012, but yeah, we will be DOCTORS THE SAME YEAR.

[identity profile] platypusnoises.livejournal.com 2009-05-12 07:44 pm (UTC)(link)
i completely missed this post this morning, but thanks to my procrastinating ways i went for a second scroll through of my flist. i'm so glad i didn't miss this post.

this program/timetable looks like an incredible experience. i'm so excited for you! if you did go overseas for that elective period, where exactly would you be interested in going in america/england?

this is just too cool. go, fahye, go!
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[identity profile] fahye.livejournal.com 2009-05-12 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I reeeeally wanted to go to London (I can stay with family) but the placements there are SO EXPENSIVE when it comes to tuition fees. Oxford is free but impossible to get into (I have no clinical references yet, and I'd have to apply RIGHT NOW for an elective when I want it). I haven't looked at a whole heap of American places yet but they seem expensive too and I have no idea which sort of hospital would give me a good experience.

[identity profile] dr-biscuit.livejournal.com 2009-05-12 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Apply anyway! Oxford is awesome. srsly...

[identity profile] dr-biscuit.livejournal.com 2009-05-12 10:04 pm (UTC)(link)
That was flippant, but I think it's worth trying early anyway. A tutor who knows you well would probably be just as helpful (and explain why the lack) and impressed by your forward planning.
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[personal profile] silveraspen 2009-05-13 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
So exciting!
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[identity profile] dubhartach.livejournal.com 2009-05-17 04:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Huh, I didn't realise that places *charged* for electives.

We got 16 weeks for ours (the good old days - 1998!) and I spent 8 weeks of that in Sydney, staying at Ryde Hospital and based at a Developmental Disabilities centre. (I've checked my journal and I first name check all the people but never mention the full name or location of the centre!)

I had a great time, both socially, as a tourist AND medically. I'm fairly sure that if I had not seen the light (Emergency medicine!) my time in Sydney would have still been useful to me today.

Your placements sound excellent and I bet you'll see and do some really interesting things in Orange, smaller hospitals always do tend towards allowing everyone to be more hands on. And everyone knows everyone, which is mainly a good thing.

[identity profile] dopplegl.livejournal.com 2009-05-18 07:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Man, I am so jealous but excited for you. I looked at your schedule and thought, 'I want to do that!' That sounds like it will be so much fun and I know you're going to be amazing at it. I look forward to hearing more about your endeavors as a doctor while I work my way into Nursing.

I totally need a Medicine icon now.