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Fahye ([personal profile] fahye) wrote2007-04-14 11:02 pm
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one of those open letters

Dear The West Wing S4 -

WAH SAM WAH OH SAM I LOVE YOU PLEASE COME BACK FROM ORANGE COUNTY All right, I'm sold on Will Bailey. Well played.

However, I feel you should know that every time someone mentions Bartlet's alma mater and pronounces it NOTER DAYME, I feel like strangling them. Surely he could have attended a university that does not require the Americanised slaughtering of the French language? (Do not take this as any kind of oblique approval of Jean-Paul. Jean-Paul is an asshat.)

CJ continues the most awesome person to ever exist. Josh and Donna are increasingly adorable.

With my continuing love &c.

- Fahye

~

Today I discovered worn-through holes in both my favourite pair of pyjama pants and my beloved black moleskin trousers :( And I just spent a lot of money on these shoes (in black), a pair of gorgeous grey trousers with tiny blue pinstripes, and a black cardigan-jacket-thing. Oh Portmans <333 I may not have any kind of glamourous executive job, but at least I can buy your clothes and pretend that I do.

I also revamped my user info. Now with less third-person POV and even more snark!

[identity profile] jadengreen36.livejournal.com 2007-04-14 01:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I just finished my rewatch of WW S4 on Wednesday night. The last 2 minutes of episode #21 is one of my favourite moments from the entire series.

Tell me when you get there.
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[identity profile] schiarire.livejournal.com 2007-04-14 02:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry. The place has always been, and will always be Noter Dayme.

[identity profile] jezrana.livejournal.com 2007-04-14 03:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Sam! :(

It wasn't ever the same without him. *shakes fist at Rob Lowe*

[identity profile] tropes.livejournal.com 2007-04-18 01:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry.

Even as a former French major, I cannot countenance that pronunciation as anything but NOTER DAYME.

It is a Hoosier thing, and we love it. Matter of state and national pride to misguidedly fuck up them foreign name words and I love that it happens. It's charming.

Come visit us in MY-lun (Milan), BRAH-zuhl (Brazil), and Ver-SAILS (Versailles), Indiana any time.

:D
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[identity profile] fahye.livejournal.com 2007-04-18 01:56 pm (UTC)(link)
*CRIES*

I realise that it's a charmingly wacky American thingamer, I just...AUGH...the sound of things is very important! You don't mispronounce things like savoir faire or avant garde, do you?

Do you?

[identity profile] tropes.livejournal.com 2007-04-18 01:59 pm (UTC)(link)
No.

It's cultural. These are place names which were altered from their usual pronunciations by people a long time ago who didn't understand phonetics. They no longer have anything but spelling to do with the places and cultures they came from; they are something else, and we like them.

It is nothing whatsoever like mispronouncing a foreign language, and I have to confess some annoyance that you would ask me if I do that when it is not the same thing at all. I have a huge respect for language and French in particular -- but these words are historically anglicized and that is different.
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[identity profile] fahye.livejournal.com 2007-04-18 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
*clarifies* I wasn't asking you in particular, I was talking about the pronunciation of those terms in everyday American parlance. That said, I do see your point about historical anglicisation and the cultural implications; I was never saying that I think you should all start saying it a different way. Just that I, lacking the fond cultural associations, reserve the right to wince whenever I hear it :)

[identity profile] tropes.livejournal.com 2007-04-18 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah okay. :D