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Fahye ([personal profile] fahye) wrote2007-02-02 11:34 pm

INTJ-ing

I have no idea if this will be helpful/of interest to many of you, but...I'm a psych student, and I find the whole concept of personality classification fascinating (though I realise that it's not everyone's cup of tea), and this is the system which I have the best handle on.

And this is me. There is not a single word of this that doesn't resonate with me. And I'm posting it here because it's easier than trying to articulate some of these concepts myself.

(taken from typelogic.com, here)



(I've bolded the bits that I find particularly relevant & interesting)

Introverted iNtuitive Thinking Judging

To outsiders, INTJs may appear to project an aura of "definiteness", of self-confidence. This self-confidence, sometimes mistaken for simple arrogance by the less decisive, is actually of a very specific rather than a general nature; its source lies in the specialized knowledge systems that most INTJs start building at an early age. When it comes to their own areas of expertise -- and INTJs can have several -- they will be able to tell you almost immediately whether or not they can help you, and if so, how. INTJs know what they know, and perhaps still more importantly, they know what they don't know.

INTJs are perfectionists, with a seemingly endless capacity for improving upon anything that takes their interest. What prevents them from becoming chronically bogged down in this pursuit of perfection is the pragmatism so characteristic of the type: INTJs apply (often ruthlessly) the criterion "Does it work?" to everything from their own research efforts to the prevailing social norms. This in turn produces an unusual independence of mind, freeing the INTJ from the constraints of authority, convention, or sentiment for its own sake.

INTJs are known as the "Systems Builders" of the types, perhaps in part because they possess the unusual trait combination of imagination and reliability. Whatever system an INTJ happens to be working on is for them the equivalent of a moral cause to an INFJ; both perfectionism and disregard for authority may come into play, as INTJs can be unsparing of both themselves and the others on the project. Anyone considered to be "slacking," including superiors, will lose their respect -- and will generally be made aware of this; INTJs have also been known to take it upon themselves to implement critical decisions without consulting their supervisors or co-workers. On the other hand, they do tend to be scrupulous and even-handed about recognizing the individual contributions that have gone into a project, and have a gift for seizing opportunities which others might not even notice.

In the broadest terms, what INTJs "do" tends to be what they "know". Typical INTJ career choices are in the sciences and engineering, but they can be found wherever a combination of intellect and incisiveness are required (e.g., law, some areas of academia). INTJs can rise to management positions when they are willing to invest time in marketing their abilities as well as enhancing them, and (whether for the sake of ambition or the desire for privacy) many also find it useful to learn to simulate some degree of surface conformism in order to mask their inherent unconventionality.

Personal relationships, particularly romantic ones, can be the INTJ's Achilles heel. While they are capable of caring deeply for others (usually a select few), and are willing to spend a great deal of time and effort on a relationship, the knowledge and self-confidence that make them so successful in other areas can suddenly abandon or mislead them in interpersonal situations.

This happens in part because many INTJs do not readily grasp the social rituals; for instance, they tend to have little patience and less understanding of such things as small talk and flirtation (which most types consider half the fun of a relationship). To complicate matters, INTJs are usually extremely private people, and can often be naturally impassive as well, which makes them easy to misread and misunderstand. Perhaps the most fundamental problem, however, is that INTJs really want people to make sense. :-) This sometimes results in a peculiar naivete', paralleling that of many Fs -- only instead of expecting inexhaustible affection and empathy from a romantic relationship, the INTJ will expect inexhaustible reasonability and directness.

Probably the strongest INTJ assets in the interpersonal area are their intuitive abilities and their willingness to "work at" a relationship. Although as Ts they do not always have the kind of natural empathy that many Fs do, the Intuitive function can often act as a good substitute by synthesizing the probable meanings behind such things as tone of voice, turn of phrase, and facial expression. This ability can then be honed and directed by consistent, repeated efforts to understand and support those they care about, and those relationships which ultimately do become established with an INTJ tend to be characterized by their robustness, stability, and good communications.

Fictional INTJ:

(HAHAH. This is subjective, obviously, but I find the following very entertaining)

Cassius (Julius Caesar)
Mr. Darcy (Pride and Prejudice)
Gandalf the Grey (J. R. R. Tolkein's Middle Earth books)
Hannibal Lecter (Silence of the Lambs)
Clarice Starling (Silence of the Lambs)
Rosencrantz and Guildenstern (Hamlet)

~

If you're looking for a test, this one isn't too bad, but it's not failsafe - I'd also look at the descriptions of the types that differ from your score by one letter, and see if you identify better with one of those. And I'd be curious to hear what any of you identify as, especially if you're familiar with the system.
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[personal profile] sophistry 2007-02-02 02:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I can find a lot of things to resonate in the other I__Js, but overall, I am almost hilariously ISTJ. It is a major personality flaw.

[identity profile] tropes.livejournal.com 2007-02-02 02:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Ha, I can never remember which one I am. I think it's INFP or J. =))
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[personal profile] genarti 2007-02-02 03:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Tests generally give me INFP, although I think I'm close enough to the F/T median line that at least once I got INTP instead.

Now I'm tempted to do the same thing. *grin* I will probably settle for doing what I just did, which is read through typelogic's INFP description and go "Yup, yup, enh, yup."

[identity profile] whatimages.livejournal.com 2007-02-02 03:28 pm (UTC)(link)
These personality tests always confuse me--I usually get INTJ, INFJ or INTP. Hooray for being a mass of contradictions ^_^

[identity profile] tammaiya.livejournal.com 2007-02-02 03:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I am almost the same as you: INFJ. I think it was a bit nicer to me than deserved in some parts but overall it seems accurate? Particularly the on/off contradiction regarding personal relationships.

http://typelogic.com/infj.html

[identity profile] blackboggart.livejournal.com 2007-02-02 05:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Mmhm, I'm INFP. It seems somewhat accurate.

I'm totally amused that a fictional INFP is Bastian from The Neverending Story. :D

[identity profile] minna.livejournal.com 2007-02-03 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
I got that too. :O But I was all, 'woo! I'm Julian Bashir! BRING ON MY AWESOME CARDASSIAN SPY BOYFRIEND!' Because I'm a gigantic dork D:
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[personal profile] silveraspen 2007-02-02 06:18 pm (UTC)(link)
ENTJ. It's a fairly repeatable result, too.

Although occasionally I will test as INTJ, depending on the test itself and/or my mental space when taking it, I think. The characteristics are "moderately expressed" here -- on the E (and the T, which is new) anyway, which keeps me pretty close to the dividing line.

[identity profile] -leareth.livejournal.com 2007-02-02 09:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Had to do personality tests for work and law; I'm consistently one of the extreme INTJs. As in, I'm SO far in the top-right-hand corner people are go WHOA (because the majority of the pool of people end up at least 1 or 2 steps towards the centre. Funnily enough, one of my closer friends here is as extreme ESFP as you find.)

[identity profile] unravels.livejournal.com 2007-02-02 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I was an INFP in like... high school maybe my first year of college, but ahaha that's been a while. I should take it again!

I can understand how this resonates with you - it reminds me of you a lot. It's sort of creepy. :D?

[identity profile] kcdl.livejournal.com 2007-02-03 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
I am a ENFP,http://typelogic.com/enfp.html it fits me pretty well, especially the thing about having a silly switch. Bits of ENTP fit me too but not as well.

[identity profile] hobviously.livejournal.com 2007-02-03 03:05 am (UTC)(link)
I love how there is such a gluttony of INFPs around here. I'm one too — so much it hurts — but as I said once, I tend to be the bad witch of INFPage, ending up cranky and burned because the world never matches my grandiose visions for it (for an INFP, everything is epic, or should be).

I'm trying to revert back to the Anne side, though.

Once, I think, I scored INFJ, which fits me pretty well, too, but if anything I have gotten less INFP-y over the past few years and I still regularly score as one, so.