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Fahye ([personal profile] fahye) wrote2006-11-11 12:51 pm

sitrep

Three down, one to go. I am so hungry that I could eat...well, not quite a horse. Maybe something in between a horse and a rabbit. An aardvark? Okay. I could eat an aardvark. If I could get the little bugger out of its armour.

Maybe a sandwich instead. Less labour-intensive.

The remainder of the day will be divided between finishing House, studying for microbio, cleaning up the apartment and poking my Yuletide fic, which is going to be awesome once I can drag it out of obscurity and into the light. It's one of those interesting projects, very seeing-David-in-the-block-of-marble, where I can look at it and know the shape of the whole and maybe a few details, but for the most part the words themselves are shrouded.

How're you lot doing? Tell me something new.
agonistes: a house in the shadow of two silos shaped like gramophone bells (it's the TARDIS -- my TARDIS)

[personal profile] agonistes 2006-11-11 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
The Whofic I'm working on sucks, so I'm working on my Whovid based on consultations I have had with [livejournal.com profile] shati, and it also sucks.

*nods*

But you are almost done with exams! Fabulous. :D
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[identity profile] fahye.livejournal.com 2006-11-11 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
Tell me about the Whofic!
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[personal profile] agonistes 2006-11-11 02:35 am (UTC)(link)
I do not know what to say about it. Is just. Vidding with lots of clips of Nine makes me miss him. And think about him. And there is a line from a Sam Phillips song that seems like it needs elaboration -- And when time opens the earth we'll see that love has been moving all around us, making way.

There's that one, which isn't working, and the Twin Peaks crossover, which is working, very, very slowly. So. :D?
ext_21673: ([dw] the word you use is "available")

[identity profile] fahye.livejournal.com 2006-11-11 02:39 am (UTC)(link)
I am slowly putting together a recs list of Who/Torchwood fic - can't wait to see yours!

It just could be the most eminently crossoverable canon to ever exist, this one.
agonistes: a house in the shadow of two silos shaped like gramophone bells (MY ACADEMIC CAREER BITCHES)

[personal profile] agonistes 2006-11-11 02:44 am (UTC)(link)
...oh, lord, don't say that, I'll want to cross it over with DT.
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[identity profile] fahye.livejournal.com 2006-11-11 03:04 am (UTC)(link)
HAHAHA DOOOO IIIIIIT. Because of the - you know - the whole thing about everyone coming into contact with this one figure and having it ruin them in the end, and multiple versions of the same world, and ka-tet. And the same malevolent force behind it all. (Though, really, Daleks = not quite the Crimson King.)

(Jack is Eddie, you know, at least as far as DW canon goes. The ka-mai archetype. Met his dinh, found his courage.)

I feel I should rename this icon 'ka-tet', but somehow 'this could be a little more sonic' better reflects the levity of the situation.
agonistes: a house in the shadow of two silos shaped like gramophone bells (i will show you fear)

[personal profile] agonistes 2006-11-11 03:09 am (UTC)(link)
Jack is Eddie, yeah, but --

I have to admit I've been thinking about it from a slightly different perspective. Like.

The shift in personality between Nine and Ten is much like what it would be like if you took Roland and replaced him with Eddie, and expected him to do the same things.

-- son of a bitch, I just got bunnied.

Dammit dammit dammit.
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[identity profile] fahye.livejournal.com 2006-11-11 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
Muahahaha. Je ne regrette rien.

I do think that drawing the DT parallels only really works for Nine & co. Ten is far too eclectic, careless, to fit nicely.

I keep seeing Roland-Jake in Nine-Rose, which is interesting. I let her die once, I won't do it again. Because Nine really, honestly loves her, more than almost anything. Ten...Ten's entire emotional structure is completely different.
agonistes: a house in the shadow of two silos shaped like gramophone bells (every hangout in every town)

[personal profile] agonistes 2006-11-11 03:41 am (UTC)(link)
...huh.

Now that's interesting. And now I have to ask myself whether it's more Roland-Jake, or Mal-Kaylee, as I'd previously thought.
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[identity profile] fahye.livejournal.com 2006-11-11 04:43 am (UTC)(link)
Mal-Kaylee is paternal and it's love but I don't think it has quite the overtone of fierce responsibility. The 'I dragged them into this', part-self-loathing, part fixation on past mistakes. That's what I see in Roland-Jake and Nine-Rose.
agonistes: a house in the shadow of two silos shaped like gramophone bells (what would we be without wishful thinkin)

[personal profile] agonistes 2006-11-11 04:53 am (UTC)(link)
Lack of overtones of responsibility, absolutely. I think I'm seeing Roland a little differently, though -- he's more apt to...I don't know, accept what can't be changed, no matter what. Like. I really don't think the trick with the nanogenes in "The Doctor Dances" would have occurred to Roland at any point in the course of the story, because it didn't have anything to do with moving forward.

I think -- yeah. Roland seems to me to be more a linear, forward-facing thinker than Nine. And yeah, he suffers guilt...but he doesn't really dwell on it. He keeps going.

And more than that...Roland is incredibly selfish. Nine isn't, so much. Another difference -- Nine makes preparations to take Rose home in case everything goes wrong. Roland wouldn't do that for Jake, because Roland would want Jake there with him until the end.

In other words: Roland has a Tower, and Nine...doesn't. :D?
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[identity profile] fahye.livejournal.com 2006-11-11 05:07 am (UTC)(link)
I was JUST thinking about that scene in 'Parting of the Ways' where he sends her home, and considering the fact that if Roland was playing that game to win he wouldn't have sent anyone away if they'd have given him an edge. You're right, of course - it's the Tower always and inevitably - and the fact that for someone who jumps between realities, Roland's momentum is utterly linear. Nine thinks in circles and moves in loops. They both have something (or a few things) in their past that they're trying to move away from, but Roland is fixated on simply putting distance between the past and himself. Nine can't see history as such a path, so he avoids the past by travelling randomly in every direction. He also has no goal, as you say, so his avoidance is more a matter of finding small distractions & redemptions where they arise.

At the same time, I think Nine has the potential to be that frighteningly single-minded, if a Tower were to present itself. The Lonely God is so hammered into his psyche that he'd be able to discard everyone around him if he was absolutely sure that a greater good was being served - he'd hate himself for it, but Nine hates himself anyway.

Ten couldn't find a Tower if it fell on him. Charming as he is. He just hasn't got the same self-awareness. His solution to Reinette, who dredged up his childhood, was to snog her and wave stars in her face until the balance of power shifted back to him and it was all a game again.

Uh. Looks like I have a bit more meta in me than I suspected.
agonistes: a house in the shadow of two silos shaped like gramophone bells (contrary nosethril)

[personal profile] agonistes 2006-11-11 06:10 am (UTC)(link)
Ten couldn't find a Tower if it fell on him. Charming as he is.

*cracks up* SO TRUE.

...ooh. Speaking of meta. *grins* So. The structure of DT reflects the structure of one of its largest source texts: "Childe Roland to the Dark Tower Came". We start in the middle, with Roland talking to the man in black, and then we move back into the past, and then we get to the Tower.

Is the universe a waste land, to Nine? Essentially -- does 'Rose' = DT1? It's really curious...we essentially get the same kind of structure...and then where DT4 ought to be is where it all goes to hell. We don't get that back story. We get Ten instead...who seems (or so I've heard) to be a lot more 'in line' with previous Doctors, personality-wise, than Nine.

I'm...thinking about 'School Reunion'. When evil!Giles (I'm sorry, I'm sorry, he is) tempts Ten. I think -- if the Doctor had a Tower, it might be that.

The interesting thing is, though -- that strategy that Ten uses with Reinette? The mechanics of it might be entirely different, but -- Roland would do the same thing, because he doesn't have a powerful sense of self-awareness, either. I think -- Nine is aware of what he's done. Ten is like 'falala'. Roland operates on intuition and training. There's a canonical quote somewhere (and I don't have canon with me, woe) that...lord. He's a body of practicality wrapped around a romantic core that he tries to keep as secret as possible. And practically? It makes sense to forget what's not useful.

Absolutely Nine has that potential, and I'm so glad it's never realized. -- AHAHAHA only it could have been realized. 'Murderer or coward?' 'Coward.' Oh, Nine. <33333

...aaaaand that was rambly with no point whatsoever. :D!
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[identity profile] fahye.livejournal.com 2006-11-12 03:45 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, let's see if this will cohere -

When Nine says 'Coward' I think it's an interesting example of him seeing some things as linear; revenge, in the present, is not going to change what happened in the past. He wants that revenge so badly - we see in 'Dalek' how utterly furious and merciless he can be - but not at the expense of human life.

That's why - YES - the temptation in 'School Reunion' (cnjshduiwdh evil Giles. so hard to take seriously.) is definitely a Tower concept for the Doctor, and I think Nine would have been just as tempted, because it offers a way to circumvent the past. The concept of ka wouldn't mean shit to Nine, if he had enough power. If he'd been able to help Rose save her father without screwing around with reality, he'd have done it. If he was able to save his people and have the power to avoid all paradoxical repercussions, he might do it. Sarah Jane goes on at Ten about everything having its time, everything dying...but time doesn't mean a whole lot. In the end.

I'm not saying Nine would have taken the offer, but...the Doctor has next to no humility, and humility is what stays one's hand in a situation like that. If the humans hadn't been there, hell, Ten might have agreed.

[identity profile] shati.livejournal.com 2006-11-11 02:11 am (UTC)(link)
Aardvark stew, maybe?

I am thinking dreamily and unproductively about vidding, and trying not to sound like an idiot answering comments elsewhere.

I totally turned down being introduced to House in order to curl up in my room and do this complete lack of anything, but I'm tired and very content. :D
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[identity profile] fahye.livejournal.com 2006-11-11 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
House is not a show that one should watch when one is tired, no. But it's definitely worth watching.
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[identity profile] schiarire.livejournal.com 2006-11-11 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
I WOULD TELL YOU, BUT WE'RE MAKING SCONES ON MY FLOOR (?!!!) SO MY STOMACH TAKES PRECEDENCE. TA!

*zoom*
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[identity profile] fahye.livejournal.com 2006-11-11 02:36 am (UTC)(link)
When you get back, explain to me how a scone is different from a 'biscuit'.
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[identity profile] fahye.livejournal.com 2006-11-11 04:17 am (UTC)(link)
Americans are weird. Biscuits are cookies and scones are biscuits.
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[personal profile] ashen_key 2006-11-11 04:18 am (UTC)(link)
Scones are scones.

I know this, because I make them.

Strange people.
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[personal profile] varadia 2006-11-11 06:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Biscuits and scones are totally different.

Scones are more . . . cakey?

And biscuits are more bready. Also they flake.

Some of them.
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[identity profile] schiarire.livejournal.com 2006-11-11 06:48 am (UTC)(link)
How the hell would I possibly know when I don't even know which definition of biscuit or scone you are using? Or when I have the culinary knowledge of an aphid? THEY'RE BOTH MADE OF FLOUR, OKAY?!

Howev: a biscuit is like, dinner rollish, which is not like a scone . . .
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[personal profile] silveraspen 2006-11-11 02:34 am (UTC)(link)
Something new?

*grin* Just finished BSG season 2.0. I should be done with 2.5 by end of next week, if I am really really lucky and manage to find significant free time.

Then I will be all caught up on season 3.0 Very Soon After That.
ext_21673: ([bsg] the lady's in charge)

[identity profile] fahye.livejournal.com 2006-11-11 02:37 am (UTC)(link)
TELL ME OPINIONS. ON THINGS.
silveraspen: brown rabbit in green grass with watership down quote (bunny quote)

[personal profile] silveraspen 2006-11-11 02:47 am (UTC)(link)
I DO NOT EVEN KNOW WHERE TO BEGIN WITH OPINIONS.

<333333333 for Roslin and Adama omg omg. And STARBUCK. And LEE. And and and SO MUCH and so many and lord, ask me SPECIFIC questions and I will fill your ears with opinions.

I need icons. And to kill off ficbunnies.
ext_21673: ([bsg] laura roslin is smarter than you)

[identity profile] fahye.livejournal.com 2006-11-11 02:55 am (UTC)(link)
LAURA ROSLIN IS MY HERO.

BSG ficbunnies cannot be killed. They just can't. You know how much stuff I've written for that fandom - ooh! You can now fully appreciate the crackiest thing I've ever written (http://mercurial-wit.livejournal.com/31848.html).

Important opinion: PILOTS! Yay or nay or complex? You are under no obligation to adore them as much as I do, but what do you think of them and their pseudosibling /massive guilt/Major Emotional Complexes/mythological significance/BEST FRIENDS WHO PUNCH EACH OTHER/true love unspoken thing?
silveraspen: field of stars at night with caption (other worlds than these)

[personal profile] silveraspen 2006-11-11 03:17 am (UTC)(link)
Days of Our Battlestar

... *WHEEZING WITH LAUGHTER* Fahye, I ADORE you right now. BEYOND WORDS.

PILOTS! Complex. Wonderfully, marvelously complex, and EEE PILOTS.

(Do NOT get me started on Artemisian symbolism for Starbuck and how well it matches with the "Apollo" theme for Lee. Do NOT. I warn you.)

<333 pilots.

And OMG ROSLIN. AND BILL ADAMA. Just just oh. And ROSLIN. She is WONDERFUL.
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[identity profile] fahye.livejournal.com 2006-11-11 03:23 am (UTC)(link)
With the GOLDEN ARROW and and no, do it! Mythology! Go go go!
silveraspen: field of stars at night with caption (other worlds than these)

[personal profile] silveraspen 2006-11-11 03:28 am (UTC)(link)
Exactly. With the golden arrow and the "adopted" daughter of Bill Adama by virtue of the engagement to Zack (Zach? I cannot remember spelling right now), which puts her in subconscious sibling status to Lee.

Artemis and Apollo. Children of Zeus. (I believe the "Zeus" analogy for Bill Adama has been made explicitly, too -- wasn't it Tom Zarek who passed the message? 'Zeus has returned to Olympus'?)

Artemis, virgin goddess of the hunt, who later became associated with/as a goddess of fertility. *looks pointedly at Starbuck's story arc, and then looks back at you*

And the two of them in myth were siblings who competed with each other and had fire and spirit and energy and also defended each other against the rest of the world when necessary, among other things.

Just to start. :)
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[identity profile] fahye.livejournal.com 2006-11-11 04:13 am (UTC)(link)
Ooh. You've thought this through more than me - I've just sort of flailed in a squealy fashion at the screen during the marching with the arrow in Home, Pt. 2.

And yes, Zarek goes in for mythology. Zarek and Leoben.
silveraspen: field of stars at night with caption (other worlds than these)

[personal profile] silveraspen 2006-11-11 05:10 pm (UTC)(link)
No, it's more that I have something of an interest in various forms of mythology-- and especially that it was Greek mythology that was my first love, there, years and years ago. So I was already amused by the potential even BEFORE she went after the arrow, and then after that... well. Glee is a good descriptor.

(Reading back over the above, I'm reminded to note that "virgin" here means "unmarried woman," not "sexually inexperienced.")

Leoben. Of course he does. I have something tickling the depths of my memory with regard to him, but I don't want to venture the theory until I get into season 2.5.
ext_21673: ([bsg] a night on mount olympus)

[identity profile] fahye.livejournal.com 2006-11-12 03:49 am (UTC)(link)
...oh, I cannot WAIT for you to see early S3.
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[personal profile] ashen_key 2006-11-11 03:39 am (UTC)(link)
A man in the street about a foot taller then me tried to get me to accept this book on yoga after babbling at me about sanskrit.

I said no.

He offered to shove it down my throat.

I smiled and said 'no'.

And then ran.

And, sadly, I'm not even joking.

[identity profile] kcdl.livejournal.com 2006-11-11 03:48 am (UTC)(link)
My sister's birthday party is today. As such completion of my first bout of drabbling is on hold. Shall continue when I return if not too pissed...or perhaps especially if I'm pissed :)

[identity profile] not-in-denial.livejournal.com 2006-11-11 03:50 am (UTC)(link)
I'm currently still in HAHAHAHA oh god I hurt all over and my fingers are raw mode from all the suspension work I did yesterday. So worth it though. Hence the HAHAHAHA bit, I suppose.

Sandwiches are good. Mmmm, sammich.

[identity profile] unravels.livejournal.com 2006-11-11 04:36 am (UTC)(link)
I'm in DC! Or near it, anyway. It is still standing, dammit. I'll see what I can do. Tomorrow I plan to kidnap Ji (and others if at all possible) and make her go shopping. Or at least to the movies. :)

And there's a new(?) episode of BSG on and I'm trying not to watch it. But not trying hard enough to change the channel.
ext_21673: ([bsg] cylon crack)

[identity profile] fahye.livejournal.com 2006-11-11 04:45 am (UTC)(link)
You must do something at least semi-evil on my behalf. DAMMIT I hate my continent :(

Yes! New! I will have to obtain it tomorrow through dubiously legal means. They've stopped screening it in Australia.

[identity profile] unravels.livejournal.com 2006-11-11 04:50 am (UTC)(link)
I'll see what I can find in the semi-evil line. It might be mostly evil, actually, but we'll see what comes up.

They've stopped screening it altogether? Are they insane? Surely they're aware of the way that everyone raves about it! :/
ext_21673: ([bsg] what once was emerald city)

[identity profile] fahye.livejournal.com 2006-11-11 04:55 am (UTC)(link)
People don't rave about scifi much here. BSG was stuck in a late, obscure timeslot and then they were surprised that nobody watched it.

Though there was a gratifying article in the Australian about the 'ten best shows that nobody's watching' and the reporter got all enthusiastic about how good it was.

Still. No more BSG. Le sigh.

[identity profile] unravels.livejournal.com 2006-11-11 05:07 am (UTC)(link)
:( Well. If dubiously legal is all you can get. It's a good 'not-your-fault' story, at the very least.

Seems like it's not just the scifi people that are raving about it around here, though. But maybe it just seems that way because I am normally one of those dweeby types.
ext_21673: ([rp] lucifer - vanity indulged)

[identity profile] fahye.livejournal.com 2006-11-11 05:13 am (UTC)(link)
*fondly* Dweeeeeeeb.

Okay! I am off to stare down my microbiology notes. Have a good time. I KNOW. YOU GUYS CAN BUY ME SOMETHING (small but) EXCITING. AND SEND IT TO ME. AND IT'LL BE LIKE I WAS THERE.

*demands*

[identity profile] unravels.livejournal.com 2006-11-11 05:21 am (UTC)(link)
SOMETHING EXCITING. And probably best non-perishable. I knew there was a quest here beyond stuffing the couch into that van!

I'm sure something will pronounce itself to be exactly the thing you would get. >:] Good luck on your exam, anyway. Done soon?
ext_21673: ([bsg] mired in your mythology)

[identity profile] fahye.livejournal.com 2006-11-11 05:24 am (UTC)(link)
YAY. And yes - best non-perishable :)

Done on Monday. I cannot wait.

[identity profile] unravels.livejournal.com 2006-11-11 05:36 am (UTC)(link)
\o/

YAY. I guess any good-luck charms won't make it to you in time, but possibly they can be activated from a distance. Or. Something.

*waves*

[identity profile] kwayera.livejournal.com 2006-11-11 08:15 am (UTC)(link)
I'm feeling like I'm flying in a thousand different directions at once, and the only thing keeping me together is will.

Damn Him for making everything so confusing.