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Fahye ([personal profile] fahye) wrote2010-09-17 03:15 pm
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To everyone who never told me of the existence of Pamela Dean's Tam Lin:

WHAT WERE YOU THINKING? Why did nobody sit me down and say, here is a book, it is perfect for you, read it now? It is:

a) extremely American in a way that's making me half bemused and half wistful, and

b) making me feel drastically under-read! and under-educated! I am not used to these feelings!

~

Anyway, flist, let's talk books! What are you reading? What have you enjoyed recently? WHAT ELSE HAVE YOU AMERICANS BEEN HIDING FROM ME?

[identity profile] not-in-denial.livejournal.com 2010-09-17 05:57 am (UTC)(link)
I'm currently rereading my favourite young adult novel, Sophie's World. :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sophie's_World

I'm also, in my non fiction reading, reading Faeries, Bears and Leathermen. http://www.press.uchicago.edu/presssite/metadata.epl?mode=synopsis&bookkey=5772551

[identity profile] apiphile.livejournal.com 2010-09-17 06:07 am (UTC)(link)
I am reading Un Lun Dun, but I imagine you've already read it.
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[personal profile] sophistry 2010-09-17 09:04 am (UTC)(link)
Between fits of grad-school panic, I am inching my way through China Miéville's Kraken, which could not be more relevant to my interests if it tried. Museum curators! Murder mysteries! A foggy, rainy London oozing forgotten (and not-so-forgotten) gods from between the brickwork, and Neverwhere-ian villains, and back-room magic, and paranormals Just Doing Their Job, Ma'am, and what to do when all the prophets and soothsayers and sandwich-board heralds of doom suddenly start agreeing with each other, because the end of the world really is coming.

Also squid.
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[identity profile] schiarire.livejournal.com 2010-09-17 11:44 am (UTC)(link)
We are hiding the Great American Cheesecake Tree.

[identity profile] strange-selkie.livejournal.com 2010-09-17 12:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow, that is an oldie but a goodie. It read slightly mannered even when I was in college, but I love it.

[identity profile] strange-selkie.livejournal.com 2010-09-17 12:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Ji, you should email me with all the Korean foods I should learn to cook, besides kimchi, which is a flat no. Other people shall forever make my kimchi.
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[identity profile] fahye.livejournal.com 2010-09-17 12:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I love Sophie's World! I have plans to put on my Big Girl Shoes and attack Betrand Russell's history of western philosophy next, but it's nice to know that Gaarder gave me a great background at the tender age of eleven.
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[identity profile] fahye.livejournal.com 2010-09-17 01:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Nope! The only Mieville I've been able to get my hands on so far is King Rat, which I enjoyed only marginally but in a way that told me I'd probably enjoy other books by that writer more. If that makes sense. &LONDON;
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[identity profile] fahye.livejournal.com 2010-09-17 01:01 pm (UTC)(link)
:O UNFAIR. I bet there is also one for pie.

[identity profile] whatimages.livejournal.com 2010-09-17 01:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I read John Crowley's Little, Big recently. I think you would like it! He has a beautiful writing style--very lyric, a little dreamy. But the book itself is fully of rather complex ideas about proportion (the world is tiny but the heart's enormous, etc) and the ways we relate to one another. Also, there are fairies (sorta).

Also, have you read David Mitchell's Cloud Atlas? If not, stop what you are doing and read it immediately.
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[identity profile] fahye.livejournal.com 2010-09-17 01:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I have read Cloud Atlas! <3333

[identity profile] whatimages.livejournal.com 2010-09-17 01:43 pm (UTC)(link)
David Mitchell's brain makes me want to die, because I will never, ever be that smart.
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[identity profile] themis.livejournal.com 2010-09-17 01:47 pm (UTC)(link)
St. Lucy's Home for Girls Raised by Wolves, which is extremely depressing.
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[identity profile] ariastar.livejournal.com 2010-09-17 01:56 pm (UTC)(link)
All I have to say about this entry is that I have both Tam Lin and To Say Nothing of the Dog sitting unread on my shelves. I SHOULD REMEDY THIS.
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[identity profile] fahye.livejournal.com 2010-09-17 01:58 pm (UTC)(link)
ARIA. THERE IS AN EXTENDED SECTION WHICH IS A THINLY-VEILED EXCUSE FOR ALL THE CHARACTERS TO GO TO HAMLET AND ROS+GUIL BACK-TO-BACK. AND DISCUSS THEM. A LOT.

The entire book is a thinly-veiled excuse to talk about books. In essense. Wait, I am going to type an extract up for you.
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[identity profile] fahye.livejournal.com 2010-09-17 02:08 pm (UTC)(link)
"Oh. You know us theatre types," said Thomas. "A head full of quotations, in no good order."

"Do you think Hamlet's the best choice to show your brother he's wrong?" said Janet to Diane.

"Yes, I do. Or at least, if the reviews of this production are right, this production is the right one. The guy in the paper said that productions of Hamlet usually cut all the political stuff -- Fortinbras, and all the speeches about usurpation and disease in Denmark, but this one leaves it all in."

"What does it leave out, then?" said Thomas.

"He said a lot of the antic disposition gets cut."

Robin uttered a dismayed cry at such a volume that the bus driver looked over his shoulder and said, "No fighting back there!"

"It's intellectual distress," called Thomas.

"Hasn't your brother got ears?" said Molly to Diane.

"He's sulking," said Diane.

"How can they cut the antic disposition?" said Robin heatedly. "Are they mad? Do they want to gut the play? Don't they know Hamlet must be his own clown?"

"Are you going to behave yourself?" said Molly.

"Let him rant now," said Thomas, "or there's not a hope he'll be quiet in the theatre."

"I've got a canvas bag," said Molly. "Suppression will occur on demand. Or provocation."

"And did they also cut all the references to Hamlet's madness?" Robin demanded of Diane.

"No," said Diane, backing off a couple of steps and catching hold of the back of a seat as the bus rounded a sharp corner, "the review said that Hamlet is simply assumed to be truly mad."

"Oh, for God's sake," said Thomas, over a renewed cry from Robin. "If I'd known that I'd have gotten tickets to something else."

"There, there," said Janet. "We can have a nice malevolent discussion about it afterwards."

"The only comfort," said Thomas, gloomily, "is that companies that fuck Hamlet up invariably do an impeccable job on Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead."



oh did I mention one of them is called Thomas?
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[identity profile] ariastar.livejournal.com 2010-09-17 02:11 pm (UTC)(link)
WHERE HAS THIS BOOK BEEN ALL MY LIFE.

I mean, of course, it's been sitting around waiting for me to read it, but! Oh my GOD IT IS PERFECT.
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[identity profile] fahye.livejournal.com 2010-09-17 02:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Hahahahah this is like that time I made you watch The History Boys and then my inbox exploded with your glee.

(Read the Connie Willis first though! It is so unbelievably happy-making.)
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[personal profile] skygiants 2010-09-17 02:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I simply assumed you had read it! :OOO Why did you never say 'I feel an aching void in my life like something vital is missing from my literary soul, please tell me what book I must not have read to make me feel this way?'

Or in other words, to talk sensibly, Tam Lin is one of those books that is extremely flawed in ways that make it perfect for me. Plot entirely jettisoned in favor of wish-fulfilment-y literary discussion? Entire large sections that are thinly-veiled excuses to talk about Shakespeare and Christopher Fry? YES MORE PLEASE. I feel it is possibly redundant for me to talk about other books I'm reading, given that is all I ever post about anyway, but as a sidenote, I saw another Christopher Fry play that I had not seen the other day, which reminds me to tell you that if you haven't read The Lady's Not For Burning before, READ IT, READ IT NOW.
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[identity profile] fahye.livejournal.com 2010-09-17 02:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I have never even HEARD of Christopher Fry ;_; Becca, this book is showing me how foolish I was to do a science degree.
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[personal profile] skygiants 2010-09-17 02:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm pretty sure this book actually played a reasonably large role in my choice of English major . . . (aside from providing me with eternal fodder to mock my mother, who was a Classics major.)

REMEDY THIS AT ONCE. CHRISTOPHER FRY. <33333333 The Lady's Not For Burning contains my all-time favorite Thomas. For the record. From the opening scene:



THOMAS:
Dear boy,
I only want to be hanged. What possible
Objection can he have to that?

RICHARD:
Why no, I ...
To be ... want to be hanged? How very drunk you are,
After all. Who ever would want to be hanged?

THOMAS:
You don't
Make any allowance for individuality.
How do you know that out there, in the day or night,
According to latitude, the entire world
Isn't wanting to be hanged? Now you, for instance,
Still damp from your cocoon, you're desperate
To fly into any noose of the sun that should dangle
Down from the sky. Life, forbye, is the way
We fatten for the Michaelmas of our own particular
Gallows.—
What a wonderful thing is a metaphor!

[identity profile] miladygrey.livejournal.com 2010-09-17 04:30 pm (UTC)(link)
WELL I ASSUMED YOU KNEW ABOUT TAM LIN. Seriously, that book just seems to find its way to people who will appreciate it. If you can find Pamela Dean's Secret Country trilogy as well (The Secret Country, The Hidden Land, and The Whim of the Dragon), you will probably also enjoy them. They are what it would really be like to be transported into a fantasy land--basically "OMG where are the toilets and why is someone trying to kill me and I DON'T WANT TO RIDE A HORSE!!!"

[identity profile] apiphile.livejournal.com 2010-09-17 05:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I've not read it yet, but that's one of his earlier ones, I think; strangely it's the one NOT about London I think you would enjoy the most - The City & The City.

[identity profile] apiphile.livejournal.com 2010-09-17 05:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Butting into your rec to SECOND IT WILDLY.

[identity profile] ladymercury-10.livejournal.com 2010-09-17 07:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I love the legend of Tam Lin--I was just introduced to it this summer. I haven't read Pamela Dean's version though. It's good, then? :D

[identity profile] nuit-belle.livejournal.com 2010-09-17 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I am currently waiting (impatiently) for Deanna Raybourn's Dark Road to Darjeeling and April Lindner's Jane to be released.

Dark Road to Darjeeling is the fourth in the Lady Julia Grey mystery series - don't read the synopsis if you don't want a spoiler to hit you! The series begins with her husband dying; the first lines of Silent in the Grave are: "To say that I met Nicholas Brisbane over my husband's dead body is not entirely accurate. Edward, it should be noted, was still twitching upon the floor."

(Raybourn's stand-alone novel, The Dead Travel Fast, didn't quite work for me, but there were some lines in there that I really loved. She's got a gift for first and last lines, especially in that book.)

Jane is a modern retelling of Jane Eyre (Rochester is a rock star!), which has me intrigued. It's got a gorgeous cover and it's been getting some glowing reviews from various book blogs.
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[identity profile] fahye.livejournal.com 2010-09-17 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
In what way? Normally I try to avoid extremely depressing books for everyday reading, but my Booker project has introduced me to a few that have been excellent.
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[identity profile] fahye.livejournal.com 2010-09-17 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
HAH they sound great :D
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[identity profile] fahye.livejournal.com 2010-09-17 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
So far (I'm only about a third of the way in) it has the slightest hint of fae to it but it's mostly about BOOKS and PLAYS and CHOOSING YOUR MAJOR and trying to study and have a boyfriend at the same time, and the main character is so extremely likeable that I am having trouble putting it down because I miss her and her wacky friends too much.
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[identity profile] fahye.livejournal.com 2010-09-17 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I'll make a mental note of both of those, thanks.

[identity profile] ladymercury-10.livejournal.com 2010-09-17 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Ooh, sounds lovely!
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[identity profile] themis.livejournal.com 2010-09-18 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
I will admit to loving a lot of extremely depressing books (As Meat Loves Salt), but several of the short stories are simply bleak, and a couple of them involve animal cruelty (although I wouldn't characterize it as abuse). I'm not Peter Singer, I eat meat, but cruelty for the sake of cruelty bothers me greatly when it's directed at non-human animals.