Boofehteh Boofeh (as my brother calls it)

[fahye]

Hurrah for Joss. Spike is cheering me up somewhat. He is so pathetically inept in matters of lurve. And the coat. Gawd, I will never get over that coat.

Xander: Or you could fight...
Spike: Yes, but I'm frozen to the spot with not-caring.

Have learned something that has made me given up on ever converting Maddy. This happened in maths:

Helena: Are those two guys kissing? *yes, they were looking through my diary. the two in question were tsuzuki and hisoka*
Maddy: That one's a GIRL, silly.
Me: Ah, no. They're guys.
Helena: *laughs*
Maddy: Um... then why are they kissing?
Me: Um. Because they're gay.
Maddy: Oh.
Me: In the actual anime them being together is just implied but I think this is fanart by someone who WANTS them to be together...
Maddy: But why would they WANT them to be gay??
Me: Why not?
Maddy: Because it's wrong!
Me: How can you say that! That's really narrow-minded!
Maddy: It's unnatural. God didn't create people to be gay.
Me: ... *not sure what to say to THAT. cross round her neck suddenly looks very large indeed. suddenly glad pentacle around mine is hidden*
Maddy: Gay people can't reproduce, and people were made to reproduce. *notices me looking slightly offended* It's true!
Me: Ok then! *changes subject*

*feels odd* Not sure what to think. I like Maddy. But I didn't know she was THIS Christian and... arg. Help. Bad.
Helena, though, loves Inuyasha, owns all of CCS in Korean and approves of animeness in general. Next time she goes to Korea I may ask her to get stuff for me.

I'm feeling very reality-detatched. I need to go and lose myself in a fantasy life where I can forget real things like chocolate cravings and pain and crazy religious friends. Why aren't there any handy, dammit?

Comments

[izumihydra.livejournal.com]

jesus. that's horrible.
i don't believe maddy could be so... homophobic. and what kind of a defence is "humans were made to reproduce?" that's like refusing to get on an aeroplane because "humans weren't meant to fly"
i don't think you can blame her religion for that either. most christians accept homosexuality these days.

ye gods

[helgmione.livejournal.com]

well, assuming god DOES exist in the first place, and if he didn't create people gay, they why are they gay? her arguement doesn't really make sense at all. and if you say 'well, he didn't want people to be evil, and there are evil people, just like there are gay people' well, the thing about evil people is they cause PAIN and DEATH and are generally BAD. not something you can say generally about people who just have a preference to be attracted to someone of their own sex (something that generally causes LOVE and HAPPINESS for at least two people).

and that's my opinion. but i just wish people could have actual proper arguements for something they believe, not just 'god said it in the bible.' when they haven't even considered at all that some of the bible (e.g slavery, murder as punishment, etc.) isn't even relevant to our society anymore. so why would homophobia be? and besides, doesn't jesus like contradict a lot of stuff in the old testament anyway, with the whole 'love everyone' thing? (if you want me to talk articulately, give me a dictionary) or has 3 years of only vaguely attention in religion taughts me wrong?

[sanguia.livejournal.com]

you should have morally and literally kicked maddies ase! you should have amde a big thing! you should have had a massive huge argument, becuase that kind of attitude is absolutely intolerable!

my respect for maddie has almost completely disappeared.

[fahye.livejournal.com]

I didn't want to make a huge thing out of it because:
1) we were in maths. this was a sort of subdued conversation.
2) I do acknowledge the fact that she has a right to her own views, however much I may disagree with them
3) she's my friend. I don't wanna have a big row with her over this. i talk to her little enough these days as it is.

but yeah, i was surprised.

[sanguia.livejournal.com]

those kinds of views are so stupendously prejudiced and ignorant and display such a lack of maturity and HUMAN FUCKING COMPASSION as to render a friendship with her in my eyes worthless.
i had no idea that maddie was such a homophobic little bitch.

[fahye.livejournal.com]

*waves hands frantically*
Yes. I agree that that kind of attitude is immature and incomprehensible to me. But I know how awful it is to have your religion mocked and if she's going to be homophobic purely because that's what her religion teaches her than it's her problem.

[sanguia.livejournal.com]

but how could you ever be so impossibly BLIND and SHEEPLIKE not to question such an obviously cruel religion? surely she'd work out that being intructed to hate someone simply because of the gender they love is seriously wrong?

[tammaiya.livejournal.com]

Personally, I don't think it's the religion itself. I think it's the socially blinded interpretation people have PUT on it. I mean, some people don't even try to think for themselves. They're SHEEP. Come on, people, even Christians don't believe everything in the bible (unless they're brainless fanatics, that is.) Just look at Adam and Eve, for Christ's sake. And have you ever read the bit with the destruction of Sodom? It is so unrealistic. I think the fact that even if God DID inspire people to write the bible, there was probably nothing stopping them from... elaborating. Colouring it with their own views, as it were. People only follow the bible religiously when it gives them an excuse to back up something they already believe, anyway. Someone may be homophobic and credit it to being god's will, but they generally don't accept everything in the bible. They only chose to pick up on the homophobic parts because the idea of homosexuality offends them PERSONALLY. Probably because of social conditioning, which sucks.
Um, I'll stop ranting now. ^ ^;